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woodboat
Canada
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 Posted - 01/02/2006 : 2:04:59 PM
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photo test
This is a test of html word wrapping around an image
In theory this text would appear in the blank space beside the image... and image size can now be regulated by using width and height commands vs letting the original size dictate display size... as you see this image is smaller - well you cannot see as the other's are no longer visible.
Paul, could you check and see if you need to give permission for author(s) to edit their posts with this change in format? If you can give permission, I can edit my old posts and make images visible.
Preview says this will work... |
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woodboat
Canada
131 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2006 : 2:24:55 PM
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hmm some strange stuff going on or my eyes are playing tricks... I see I can now edit my posts (again) ...?
anyway here is html test...
Here we have typical area of rot next to patio
door. Quite equal on both sides... The entire support structure for the
patio door was rotten to the point the entire salon house with door had
separated from the side decks and was sinking into the bilge...
just confirming that I can indeed get these
pics up here... each pic on previous posts would need to have their image tags modified to be visible... and this change would have to be done by the original poster, or you.
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Well, Paul this appears to work... question is, is it worth it for those who have pics posted already on your site. In all previous posts where there are pics, the code would need to be changed in their posts for the pics to be visible - this would have to be done by the poster or by you... not a huge job, but time consuming. While the HTML capability will allow text wrap around the images, saving space, and also allow a few other niceties such as different text etc, there does not appear to a lot of benefit to other users, and I surely do not wish to hog your forum... So, you may wish to evaluate whether this change is worth it to the forum - does anyone else see this as an advantage in the long run? What can I say? If you let it be a few days, some will wonder what happened to the disapearing pics lol... I can change my posts no problem, and I can explain the changes required for the others, but cannot do them of course due forum control restrictions. |
Edited by - woodboat on 01/02/2006 7:25:44 PM |
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woodboat
Canada
131 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2006 : 9:04:55 PM
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Hi Y'all ... here is my hole in the water surrounded by wood in winter hibernation... I modified my 40ft trailer to for  thethird time, each for a smaller boat lol...
You can see I expanded the boat supports by the insertion of 2x12 x 8ft long planks... the boat bottom was (I felt) too weak for just the pads, so this now provides full, straight and sufficient support under the boat. There is one problem however - when/how
do I paint that area?
This photo has the almost completed wooden framework that will support the woven plastic tarps.
It is the poor man's version of shrink-wrapping a boat ... wood is 1x4 spruce strapping with doubled up 'beam' at the apex.
And this is how she looks today in the Great White North. With some good luck and lots of work, perhaps she will be back in the water come May or June this year when the marina opens.
Such a short season here - essentially four months.
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woodboat
Canada
131 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2006 : 2:22:41 PM
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Last summer I was fortunate to be able to work on my Carver at the marina. Four of us occupy the best location/dock, this one being nice and wide and convenient to access with materials (no covered slips available). Rebuilding the beast without this working platform would be much more difficult than it already is lol.
Like the rest of the boat, the flybride is a pile of rot and needs total replacement. The only working instruments are the tachometers. The
bridge will be a project for 2007.
Noticeable in the interior/salon pic is that I started to rip out the headliner. Later I decided to rip it all out, since I had a broken 'rafter' up there and felt the whole roof could us some re-enforcement. I reduced the sponginess of the flybridge floor by gluing/screwing sections of 3/4 in ply to the salon ceiling between the exposed rafters.
The pic here was actually taken to show the work being performed to repair (remove rot) and seal the window tracks. All glass was removed, then all the tracks, then all the rot, replaced with new wood and/or epoxy as required, then re-assembled but not re-varnished. I did this complete rebuild on all four side window areas (upper and lower each side). There was a LOT of rot! and this impacted other areas of course, including the galley which I ended up gutting in entirety and now have a new design/layout.
In the last photo here, the rot lying on the side-deck is only some of it, the rest is inside the boat ... this is the area of leaks that destroyed the galley.
... and how's it been with you?
If you are having difficulty viewing text/pics,please let me know. I am attempting to format this so that pics and text do not overlap, however forum restrictions have me doubting that my 'displays'are compatible with your screen settings... thanks - Steve
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woodboat
Canada
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carvermitch
Canada
407 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2006 : 8:20:24 PM
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Hi Steve
The text and photos are great. I still have not figured how to do them myself.
You certainly have done a lot of work on your boat.
Hope you have lots of fun.
Regards
Paul |
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woodboat
Canada
131 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2006 : 9:41:55 PM
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Hi Y'all... early tomorrow I am off to this place to visit with my Dad, on occasion of his 89th Birthday this week...
... do you recognize where I will be? (hint - it's in Canada). Pic was taken some 30 years ago lol
... be back in a week or so... cheers ~ Steve |
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Rob
Canada
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Posted - 02/14/2006 : 11:00:41 PM
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| I was there but can not remember where its was. its was about 20 years ago.. i have pics of this.. |
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woodboat
Canada
131 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2006 : 5:39:13 PM
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Miss me?
My one week absense turned into three months lol... Rob, my location was Osoyoos BC.
I worked on my hunk of rot until December, and managed to finish much of the inside of the hull renovation. The following pics detail some of that.
In this first series, the left photo is the area forward and stbd showing the hull once I removed the galley (what a mess in there), the middle pic is the six oz epoxy cloth being cut and positioned after digging out and filling any voids in the plywood (rot) with epoxy paste (epoxy and wood flour). Prior to this, the whole area was cleaned and vacuumed, then a coat of epoxy applied as you can see in the darker plywood sections in the middle photo. Right image shows rebuilding of the galley, which I re-designed to remove the angled installation, and now also employs a full new plywood bulkhead that now goes right to the ceiling and ties in.
Next series of images show typical plywood rot on inside. There were lots of these areas, rotten to the point where only the last 1/8th  plywood lamination held the water out (aside from all the gunk that covered these rot areas. Many bad areas under the head region, this pic was farther aft. The pic was taken after cleanout of debris and gunk, after pressure washing and vacuuming, and after the first sealing coat of epoxy, but prior to epoxy past fill and cloth layer.
Middle photo similar timing with several broken/rotten rib portions that I rebuilt with epoxy paste rather than replacing due to time, money and I am only trying to save/rebuild, not restore.
Bottom image here is forward between galley and head showing final application of epoxy on cloth. Note the epoxy paste fill in rotten areas/separations of keelson. This was performed throughout the boat, since the keel will never be replaced in this old gal, and will provide years of service by sealing/stiffening the structure.
Ok, final pic assembly here is some area of rot on the keelson, this being mid-ships under the salon, with the area having been through the full cleaning process (first digging out all crud by hand, then shop vac, then power wash, then shopvac again, then drying, then treated with glycol (antifreeze) to fight rot spores, dry again, etc... as done throughout the whole boat).
Middle image the finished forward area between head and galley, right pic the finished mid-ship area. This process I performed from stem to stern and was one heck of a workout lol.
I have not been back in the boat this spring... way too busy with other things unfortunately. I need to still perform much work on the hull outside-under water areas before she can be getting wet again. Also need to obtain and install shaft and seal(s) for v-drive stbd. At this time I do not know when/if she will be going in this year. But as the weather gets warmer, the lake sure is beckoning. Ice only left the lake one week ago! And how's it been with you? ~ Steve
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woodboat
Canada
131 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2006 : 9:18:26 PM
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Since I have the flybridge for outside enjoyment, I felt a covered deck area over the aft cockpit and engine hatches would be a warranted modification.
It is to serve two purposes, one to allow us to sit 'outside' while there is a gentle rain, and two, to protect the engine area from soakings by rain storms. To this end I intend to make two removable windows for the aft facing area, and two additional for the sides.
These will be wood framed with recycled aluminum storm window glass. I hope to make the side windows/entry doors hinged to flip up and latch at the ceiling, and the rear ones removable and stowable under the flipped up entry doors. Guess it will make more sense if I can get some photos WHEN they are built and installed lol... not sure when THAT will be!
Still have to build small ladders to the flybridge, and one will land on the taller part that I built. Reason for it being some 8 inches higher is to make room for stowage of the flip up and removable glazing/entry doors and also to make it easier for boarding. Almost looks factory lol
I did manage to build a home made swim platform and have kinda figured out how to mount it... the platform sure looks like fine furniture compared to the boat lol
... went to pay for my slip this eve and learned that they gave it away, May 2nd (while I was away) and did not even call~!!! Have had a slip there in that same spot since the marina opened 17 years ago - I was the only boat with the only dock in that location for several years... and now they just give it to someone else without a call saying I missed the deadline... that is a problem resulting from constant staff changes...
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woodboat
Canada
131 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2008 : 1:19:15 PM
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Hi Folks, I'm baaaack! it's 2008and time to get busy!
Two year 'hiatus' from working on the boat came to an end last fall as I committed to floating her for this summer, finished product or not. This summer it will be Three Years since she last floated !@!
And so it is that I convinced the City to permit the construction of a temporary shelter around the boat. This ended up being rather large as you can see. Inside dimensions are 14'x36'x15'3"high, and is securely anchored to the shed at the stern and a gravel 'bin' on one side as well as braced to the trailer at the bow.
In October/November I worked on various things on the hull of the boat, below waterline and above - items I will detail in the next batch. This shelter took me two weeks to build (alone) using 2x4 frames and 1x4 strapping and was built entirely alone except for the moving/lifting of the pre-assembled frame members into position. Was a lot of work in itself climbing up and down the framework like a monkey, and the installation of the Fabrene (woven industrial plastic) was quite a challenge too doing this alone. Still, building this was essential if I was going to have any success in the renovation of this boat's outside. I have huge plans - silly me lol.
Above is how the finished shelter survived the winter - pic from late March 2008... just fine. The agreement with the City means that the shelter has to be removed mid - June and cannot be rebuilt next fall (or ever lol). I will do what I can to get her done, too cold to work in there now, hopefully not too hot in May/June! More soon ~ Steve
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woodboat
Canada
131 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2008 : 6:17:42 PM
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Ok, the shelter allows for almost 5ft of room at the stern to get around the boat, and to allow for access to the shed (where I keep some boat parts), especially important once I rebuild the trim tabs (you may recall one actually fell off the boat in the water, hanging by the hose lol) and also will need extra room once I install a home made swim platform - after I figure out how to mount this to the boat.
Even on the sides I have a minimum of about a foot on each side (beam is 11'10" I think).
While I attacked the bottom first, I also worked on 'repairing' holes in the lapstrakes and the gunnels - here is the bow! Nasty eh?
This work was done ...or I should say was started... last fall (Oct/Nov) and I will try to find the pics I took from some of the bottom work... next.
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woodboat
Canada
131 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2008 : 1:54:48 PM
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Alright, raining today and too cold in the tent (+1C/34F) to play in there... so spend a little time on the puter...
To fix the bow rot in the previous post, I had to gain access to the inside area and so removed the rope locker 'wall' and have decided that when it goes back, it will be modified by moving it forward one rib allowing for the build of a little shelf on the berth side for something or other... dunno... just give a little more spacious feel anyway.
The fix involved sizing a piece of wood and cutting verticals almost all the way through so that it could be 'bent' into shape and fitted into position. This was glued into place with construction adhesive and held in place with hot melt glue until the CA set. then thickened epoxy was fed into the various voids and grooves, and sanded when dry. I use construction adhesive a lot as 'filler' since I have to do this on the cheap and epoxy is Not lol. Same with the wood, I will use spruce or pine even if it is embedded and sealed and above waterline.
Similar cheap fixes are employed in other areas ... this boat has rot in areas where a normal boat does not even have an area! 
Guess it's all kinda sick (or at least sickening).
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Edited by - woodboat on 03/31/2008 1:57:13 PM |
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sea bitt
USA
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Posted - 04/01/2008 : 1:31:38 PM
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Most marinas around me would not take a wood boat in. Maybe 100% restored, but definitely not a “fix er upper.” Most marines found out that the owner of the wood boat would work hard on it for awhile get tired or ruin out of money or realized it was a major money pit and never going to get it to the water. They would abandon the boat and the yard would need to get rid of it after going through all the legal steps. A real pain.
Bruce
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woodboat
Canada
131 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 10:27:18 AM
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I expect you are right Bruce. Wood boats are finding it difficult to harbour themselves as marinas become less friendly to the wooden hulls due to exactly the problems you describe. There are still many marinas in the Pacific NW and New England areas that are very wood boat friendly, but the number is diminishing. This may turn around in say 20 years as wood boats become a ... ummm... novelty lol.
For my part, there is only one marina here, and it is owned by the City. Season runs from late May to early October. In the winter we get 3ft of ice, so all boats have to come out of course, and there are no services/places to store your boat at the marina. IF a boat was left there, the marina would have to hire someone to move the boat to the ramp, then figure a way to haul it and store it, then the owner would be dinged by having the cost added to property taxes. Our marina has been around for nearly 20 years and so far this scenario has never happened. Much more of an issue is the difficulty in obtaining insurance for a wood boat (as required by the marina). |
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